Excellent points, especially LWs use of ratted out. Alison has said so many times that theres no tattling in the work world. An employer of mine got a FOIA request where they asked for every email wed sent to anyone from any regulatory agency. Monitoring should not be excessive and the employee must know what will and won't be caught, for example, whether personal emails will be read. She shared *exciting* embargoed information. Thank you for explaining this! Employees also. Access rules are very, very strict, and there are reminders all the time. Yes! PRSA is an excellent suggestion! (Drunk driving is an extreme example of this. Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been. This was a Friday. Sometimes they go so far as tell the bearer of the news that they now have to soothe them bc its their fault they feel bad. FOIA and open records requests are really big deals. Every employer Ive worked for (finance) has done annual or semi-annual privacy/information security trainings, and while theyre tiresome for some of us, theyre certainly helpful in continually reinforcing hey, this is a very very very very very big mcf**king deal. Fired for gross misconduct because I sent confidential information to personal mailbox - how do I get another job? We got [Celebrity Y] to promote a big public health initiative! Im not cleared for it. Even there, be very sure the person youre talking to has the same access you do. Best wishes! So in regards to the tell an imaginary friend idea, I have also: openly disclosed highly confidential information to a) my cats and b) Jesus. If its obvious who the email was intended for, just forward it on and cc the original sender, letting them know what youve done. I was working on some client confidential information on my client issued laptop and I emailed this info to my personal mailbox as I wanted to continue doing work on my personal laptop; I couldn't take my work laptop away whilst on extended leave overseas. So, he learns about things at the same time as the public, and he just knows when Im extra busy because theres a big release coming, or someone messed something up, etc. Since this incident, Ive taken steps like [saving journalist friends as contacts in a different phone, deleting my Slack channel, etc. My late dad worked for a government defence research agency for most of his career. Thank you. I have information that I have kept confidential for more than a decade that I know the patients wife does not even know (think undisclosed criminal record). I guarantee you that somewhere in the company handbook for the Government Agency where you worked there is a paragraph about the obligations of an employee who learns of a data breach. And this will definitely have an effect on how you come across to people interviewing you in future. And all you learned was to avoid freshly mopped floors? It's really just a 30 . Sometimes the news is a dreadful burden to bear (staff reductions of people you know, elimination of services you think are important) and sometimes the news is exciting, you have the inside scoop and cant wait to share it. Accept the responsibility for your actions and it will make life a lot easier going forward. Not advising you to lie, but you can present the circumstances in as flattering manner as you like. That guilt is because you KNEW you did something that was explicitly not allowed, and you went to your coworker in the hopes theyd absolve you of your guilty conscious. I just want to remind people that it happened. I would push back slightly on the leak to press part. I doubt it was the plan to storm Area 51. This is a long way to go for a publicity stunt. While I agree that this needs to be explained in the right way. Where I work, I cannot legally share information about very exciting things that are happening/about to happen. Right? Messages like this can simply be ignored and deleted. In an ideal world, it doesnt happen at all. Don't worry, you're still qualified to be Secretary of State. And then THAT person got so excited that they just had to tell someone Each person thinks theyre only telling one other person, and that they can trust that person. Fascinating (and fun!) Trying to understand how to get this basic Fourier Series, Linear regulator thermal information missing in datasheet. 2) Told someone you broke a rule. Damn, thats hard core. (Plus, were not sure how much of the inflation came from the coworker and how much came from their superiors. All rights reserved. Im so paranoid about it, that I only talk about what the company has already shared publicly. What exactly do you want her to do so you feel satisfied that shes recognizing and acknowledging the seriousness of what happened? But your friends profession means you often cant share these types of things with her because of other peoples perceptions about it they dont know your friend, and while she may take off the record seriously, some journalists dont and your coworkers have no way of knowing which type of journalist she is. So you let the cat out of the bag about the cat your zoo bagged? It was super not personal, it was just a situation were second chances were not given, period. Confidentiality can stink at an interpersonal level, everyone tends to talk about their work and it can be hard to hide things from people we care about. I was fired for technically breaking a rule but it was my first offense, and nothing bad actually happened, and Im definitely learned my lesson. Something LW has not seemed to understand: the fact that you worked for a governmental agency is not the issue, the fact that you leaked info early is. Im sorry but it would definitely be a good idea to recognise that this is a really big deal and learn from it. Some offenses are so serious that you immediately get fired. You can never rely on people to be 100% trustworthy, no matter how long youve known them. Thats another instant firing, even if the information isnt ever misused. Yet, the subordinates were not pleased! Sometimes that PHI belongs to people I know. Im a publicist. If something like this would help, maybe try it. Same here! Much safer. I hope you find something good soon and can put this behind you. I dont / cant post it publicly, but I can share all kinds of stuff with people close to me even friends in journalism, though I always specify off the record before i dish and my employer doesnt care because the concerns about confidentiality arent strict NDA / security issues. But it could be that GSA's dad had a code/password to verify it was actually him and the caller forgot to verify that first. I think one can be upset at not getting a second chance without feeling necessarily entitled to one. Period. That may not be the right wordbut Im having trouble finding the right one. That will go over much better with future employers. you can include that in there too, not as a way to cast doubt on their decision but as a way to indicate this was a fluke, not a pattern of bad judgment. My first thought was of the whole JK Rowling / Robert Galbraith fiasco. If it keeps happening, you can report the sender as junk or spam to block future messages. But it absolutely does not mitigate it AT ALL. "Yes, humor in the workplace is a fabulously invaluable thing that any workplace can benefit greatly from, but when your colleagues already feel buried under a pile of never-ending emails, adding. Right. I always assumed the phrase meant no feelings are incorrect, and it made a lot less sense than the way youve laid it out! There are many ways to say thing like this without lying. I think if the OP had framed the situation as, how can I get another job after being fired for being a whistleblower after I shared important but unfortunately confidential information with a journalist because the public has a right to know, these comments would be very different. This is important both in terms of owning your mistake and not blaming the person who reported it. Theres a lot of admittedly not very exciting info the federal government is sitting on at any time. You will bounce back! Its a huge risk that if discovered by the employer would likely result in being blacklisted from the company and if the LW is employed there immediate termination. I hope you get past this, it may bar you from future government work, but not other placed hopefully if you follow Alisons advice and really own up to the mistake. UK officials are bound by the provisions of the Official Secrets Act and people have gone to prison for giving information to journalists before now. She just needs to learn discretion. Its a big difference if you sit together at a bar, your friend mentions chocolate teapots and you say oh, this morning I was asked to design a llama-themed one before you realize that you really shouldnt have said that. 2.) Also, the OP wont be able to ever claim the good work experience she gained from the role. Accidents do happen, we are all human but what rights you have if you share private company information by mistake really depends on a few things: the type of information that was accidentally distributed, how this impacted your company, and what the consequences were for you. the coworker probably was obligated to report it Since you touched on it in your follow-up, OP, dont look at this as not getting a second chance. You are its just going to happen at another organization. This violates workplace compliance and trust. How do I make amends and go about apologizing to former manager(s) after being dismissed for gross misconduct? You technically did something, your friend happened to be a journalist, victimless mistake, and so on. Keep rewriting what happened in the most factual, dispassionate way possible. Agreed. That would likely lead to your manager also getting fired (for not firing you in the first place) and also make your entire department/agency look bad to the public (whod be wondering who else still working there has done something similar without getting fired). Unfortunately, a lot of times people mistake the first for the second. Rules are there because its so easy to do that thing that feels harmless, and sometimes nobody gets hurt.. can you get fired for accidentally sending confidential information. Nothing dangerous, and while I was there it honestly wasnt even anything that would be a big scoop or exciting dinner party story. There is zero entitlement in saying that shes upset she didnt get a second chance. Yup! What I find interesting in the original letter is LWs insistence that it was a victimless crime because nothing bad happened as a result of their leak. It simply means that your employees are not to disclose proprietary information or data about your company to another person without your consent. While it clearly appears LW would not have done any of this, the regulations and policies are written to protect the employer and coworker from any potential negative actions. 1964 is what I remember. Where the investigation uncovers evidence of divulging confidential information, then the employer should take formal action. How should I explain that I'm looking for a job because my employer may be shutting down? It makes me so happy that I had to tell someone is a reason to text them, OMG, huge news that I cant tell you, but you will be SOOOOO happy when its in the papers in a few days! Not to actually, yknow, tell them the private information. The best solution for avoiding misdirected email altogether is through human layer security. How to get feedback on application rejections sent from a noreply mailbox, Is it bad to answer "Why/how did you get into that job" with "Because I just wanted a job". Compare someone in law enforcement happening to find out the (secret) address and phone number of their friend-groups favorite celebrity, or finding the contact information for the cutie in the convertible, after their roommate catches the license plate numberand sharing. December 15, 2009, 1:05 PM. And they also need to have an acute understanding that the timing of disclosure makes a HUGE, TREMENDOUS difference. ^^. Im also a supervisor. Sometimes its because someone could obtain an unfair benefit from early access to what will later become public information (e.g., think analogous to insider trading). In a job interview, how do I explain why I was fired? Both of those would merit a reprimand, separately or together, but somehow in the telling it got turned into that the latter happened with the former as the method. I am trying not to be too harsh but yes you screwed up. If I were in the coworkers position, I would need to do the same thing. An in-person meeting might be more appropriate if you accidentally sent information about your plans to find another job to your manager. Right. More commonly it means that you either cant share anything, or you cant share parts that someone could connect to a particular client. We asked them why they did it. None of this makes you a bad person, untrustworthy, or unemployable. This is what I wanted to say but you said it better. Its no worse than our organization doesnt protect classified information no matter how badly an employee disregards policies. I dont know if it was to avoid track-covering or to prevent retaliation, but that was a specific part of the procedure. 2 July 2018 at 9:11PM. The rules are severe because people need externals to keep them motivated. As I said below, that may be why you werent given a second chance. Id instantly think that youd learned nothing, that no information we kept around you would be secure, and that anything we brought to you as far as behavior we needed you to change would suddenly be labeled as victimless and only because *truly irrelevant fact here* and unfair. Share information about a company merging before its publicly announced? I realize you want to minimize your mistake! Everyone in the workplace has an equal obligation and responsibility to ensure that rules are upheld because thats what keeps the company operating smoothly and in business and able to provide jobs to you all. I tell my team that if it leaks from us, they cannot work here. Clearly yall do not understand handling confidential information. OP, you truly buried the lede: you leaked to a journalist. my boss read my Skype conversations, parental involvement with employees under 18, and more, my manager and coworker are secretly dating, boss will never give exceeds expectations because he has high standards, and more, update: I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, stolen sandwiches, disgusting fridges, dish-washing drama: lets talk about office kitchen mayhem, interviewer scolded me for my outfit, job requires an oath of allegiance, and more, update: a DNA test revealed the CEO is my half brother and hes freaking out, my entry-level employee gave me a bunch of off-base criticism. Even if they knew she used Slack to talk to journalists in general, its a massive enough leap from I told a friend via text that Im side-eyeing the coworker and HR a little. But we have embargoes for a reason. The violation was only victimless by accident and confidentiality rules dont hinge on whether or not the leak is known to have caused damage. If a member of your staff violates this explicit. It can be exciting to know whats going to happen before it happens, even when the news itself isnt *that* thrilling. The answer hinges in part on what constitutes truly private communication, says Christine Walters, an independent consultant with FiveL Company and author of Helping Leaders Limit their Liability by Learning the Law. Whether nor not anyone got fired might depend on context, but somebody would at the very least get a serious talking-to. Is it FOUO though? Oh yeah, my response wasnt to you it was just to continue what Alanna said. This is why you never ever confidentially share work-related things with colleagues. And maybe you should go next week, because the slots love you and you always win. Sometimes were lucky and there arent any repercussions. I agree with you! Sometimes their hands are tied too. Thats the person were gonna call the blabbermouth in this situation? I wrote back and asked, Is there more context for why your coworker thought that? See Rule 1.2 (d). Some certainly will, especially those who are more security-conscious. If I happened to expose that to my BIL who runs the comic book store and has a bunch of media and arts and entertainment contacts? It was bad. If someone had been privy to the list of cities prior to the announcement, and leaked it, they would 100% have been fired. For context I work with PHI covered under HIPAA for my job. Confidentiality is a big deal for a lot of reasons, and people in those types tend to respect that. All journalists are human and many of us have spouses/friends who do things that are news, and this is a situation where good boundaries can protect everyone. Egress Intelligent Email Security is an example of human layer security, as its able to adapt to your individual behaviour through machine learning. Same-sex marriage is going to be legalized tomorrow!. You are disappointed you didnt get a second chance. Theres no such thing as blind-siding once youve committed an infraction and people have to act on it. Dec. 17, 2009 -- You probably don't think twice about sending personal messages through your work e-mail. Hind-sight is 20/20, but the LW should have thought twice about sharing that leaked incident with any coworker, especially a mentor who likely would be obligated to let the higher-ups know. Its too difficult to know which internally-discussed information is confidential and which isnt. But they took confidentiality very seriously, and I signed an extremely ironclad NDA, so I never told anyone any of the interesting tidbits I found out about from working there. Its very possible that LW could think what happened to me wasnt totally fair and still accept full responsibility for it during interviews (which is obviously the smart thing to do). Your contract can still be terminated if you violate a lawful . Unauthorized Emails: The Risks of Sending Data to Your Personal Email Accounts. An employee who doesn't know about a policy important enough to fire someone over is just a ticking time bomb to an employer. Recently, the National Guard was hit with a data breach, where files containing personal information were unintentionally transferred to a "non-DoD-accredited data center by a . All rights reserved. The co-worker absolutely had a responsibility to bring this information forward. When they call for a reference, many employers will absolutely say if you were fired or laid off, and they will give detailed references. So I guess maybe it is a generational thing? Your comment above is much closer to an effective track. Coworker Jean who would CC her boss and her grandboss when Jean thought shed caught somebody in an errorbut would then cease CCing once she realized that there was in fact no error? can you get fired for accidentally sending confidential information. The Expert above is not your attorney, and . A true 100% owning of what you did. Its completely understandable that you were upset about it when you wrote in (and upset about it now). ugh, no if you cant tell them the actual news, dont tease it. Ideally. Completely unrelated to the topic at hand, love the username! It could also end poorly if the employer actually sees a job opening posted for the position the LW claims was eliminated. When weve made a mistake, it often feels unfair when we dont get an opportunity to explain, defend, and/or redeem ourselves. UK government has fired people for looking up records of contestants on reality TV series, multiple times. Just *looking* at the account would get you noticed and your hand slapped (if you were lucky). But, bald facts, they told you not to do the thing you turned around and did. Yep. Yeah just assume that for the next few years youre out of the running for jobs that require a confidentiality. Examples that most journalists would find pretty snoozy (although journalists who cover the agency super-closely for trade publications, Politico Pro, Bloomberg Gov, etc, would still be interested): Was the friend a journalist, or is there something else that would explain why she said that? The reply: Yes, the friend I texted happened to be a journalist but doesnt cover the area that I was working in. However, at the time, I did feel guilty so I confided in an older coworker who I considered a mentor. Similar in IT in my first internship, I had access to about 40,000 social security numbers. (Many of these claims have to be handled by specialists who have security clearance, but not all of them.). I screwed up in grad school and had to go in front of an IRB board for being sent information that I hadnt gotten full clearance for. It doesnt matter if it was text or Slack, a single journalist or a whole group. LW already feels wronged. But you should try to understand how this happened (why that friend? A breech of confidentiality like that can land you and others in jail. Im sorry, but I think you were fired with pretty good cause and it would be important to own that or you wont be able to spin the story for future employers. @MarkAmery OP said themselves that what they sent was 'client confidential information' but ruled out trade secrets/IP being involved. Later the coworker left the company and at company B was asked to write a similar report for the new company. I agree with Alisons response. I DEFinitely sometimes shared those tidbits with friends and family who were big tiger/hippo/etc fans. Having said that, as a hiring manager, if you were able to talk to me about how this one-time error in judgment caused a deep shift in thinking and was a critical pivot point in your professional development I would hear you out. Noooooo. So mention it only if explicitly asked. Heres another the state Supreme Court will probably make a decision on voting district gerrymandering soon., (This one happened to me, and was probably the most exciting confidential information I got access to my desk was close enough to the GIS employees that I could see the increased traffic out of their area and infer that Something was Happening. Inadvertently, in my view, would be something along the lines of had confidential documents in a briefcase that you accidentally left behind at a coffee shop. Actually advertising is not going to be any better. LW, please, please look hard at what happened and how you can promise yourself first of all that this was the last time. OP if I was part of an interview for you, and you brought up this situation the way its phrased here, Im sorry to say it would be an immediate pass. This isnt breaking a rule; its potentially putting your organization in jeopardy. It was a refreshingly candid answer and so we wound up hiring him. Depending on the circumstances, you can indeed get fired for sending what you assume to be a private email or text. If you live in a place where its illegal to shoot guns into the air, and you shoot a gun into the air and the bullet does not actually kill anyone in its fall, you have still broken the law and placed others in danger. Separately, when you share, you have to still be oblique enough to not get yourself in trouble. +1 on the choice of language and framing. But your framing of this does sound defensive and doesnt sound like youre taking responsibility for what happened. That was a stressful week for all concerned. Eh, if a waitress at a homey diner calls everyone honey, I wouldnt call it condescending. Its not their call. Accidental disclosure of PHI includes sending an email to the wrong recipient and an employee accidentally viewing a patient's report, which leads to an . 3. The coworker could have totally done the right thing and the LW would still have a right to be annoyed and hurt by the action. But fairly often it was classified to some degree, and he could only talk about how his project was going but not about what it was. Don't worry, you're not alone. Im just explaining that the information was likely a non-public record and not a confidential record. Oh, I wish Id seen this before replying. Even though he loves the MCU and would have enjoyed the anecdotes. You believe your friend is trustworthy but, wow, the optics of sharing with a friend who is a journalist are really bad, and . As easily as one of them knowing OP uses Slack to contact reporters and assuming I told a journalist friend or I told Rain (who they know is a journalist, possibly on that channel), anything but I texted a (journalist) friend meant OP went the usual Slack route. Sent a confidential email to the wrong address? I did not get fired for the offense, but I genuinely learned a great deal from the experience and it changed the entire way I interacted with clients, for the better. TootsNYC is talking about this latter case. update: how can I turn down training requests from my clients? And theres a difference between feeling (sensation) and feeling (conclusion drawn from integrating sensations and information). Thats a horrendously burdensome thing to ask! If it hasnt worked out yet, it isnt the end. If I had an employee that did this, Id expect them to be mortified and I would expect to hear how seriously they were going to take embargoes from here on out, and the LWs letter and response are almost the exact opposite. They might tell superiors accidentally, out of frustration (e.g. Yes, but lets face it, theres no way its as exciting as what any of us are imagining it to be. Both your friend AND your co-worker. Government tends to operate differently. For the purposes of VIWI, a confidential client shall be able to establish a mutually authenticated TLS channel with the auth server and resource service, providing a trusted identity, usually in the form of a certificate signed by . how do I tell employers I was fired for a video I put on YouTube? Thanks for sharing all of this. Man I am swamped with the publicly known project I am barely treading water. You can avoid finding yourself in this position by double-checking the recipient email address (especially when autocomplete is involved), the cc field, and the Bcc field. I would argue if you acknowledge your error in judgment, it would work more to your benefit, then classifying it as a one-off mistake and overreaction by your company. It was a really bad decision on my part and I have learned a lot from the experience. Its sounds like you are pretty young and people tend to be a slightly more forgiving when you are young a make a mistake like this as long as you take ownership of it. I am a veteran employee in good standing, but if I shared Material NonPublic Information I learned on the job and was found out, I would be terminated immediately and they would be right to do so. But I agree that reporting coworkers for actual errors that actually affect the company isnt ratting. And it doesnt sound to me as though the OPs coworker was in any way a rat. I was dismissed for a breach of confidentiality. Candidate must then come up with a good reason why former employer wont re-hire given they merely eliminated the position. its not condescending to point out that what LW did was incredibly foolish. And depending on the circumstances, if the co-worker knew you broke the rules and didnt report it, then THEY could be in trouble also. I have been fired for a dumb mistake. +1 Because, if you did the first apology option then I think it would be (more) possible youd get a 2nd chance. Now I just leave and cry and deal with the long-term consequences, like never moving up. Oh, so LW cant keep a secret from her reporter friend or her coworker, but were ragging on the coworker for not keeping LWs secret? I work in patents, and regularly see information that can definitely not be made public and has to be sent back and forth with extra security measures, but would also be tremendously boring to everyone but the IP team for a few specific rival companies in a very tiny field. Does that matter? So, I can talk about it, I can say Omg, there was one scene that I was just like SuperCheese! and rolling my eyes. Journalists are very charasmatic and will fish for info its their job. Like its going to be easier to find a job because she has the integrity to say she got fired. Im confused about the fact-finding meeting.