Maybe my brain is just not functioning today, but who is this Ash person? [citationneeded], Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Season Six; Tabula Rasa, SPIKE: I must be a noble vampire. I heard Seth wanted out because he was getting more demand for movie workcause of his Austin Powers role instead of his Buffy role. "[1], In a gender studies text, Jowett includes a section on the character, and argues the character is "masculinized by her roles as professor, scientist and leader. Fans struggled to connect with Riley when he was first introduced to the show, as he was seen as just another of Buffy's romances. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? Although it seemed that he and Angel had buried the hatchet, Lindsey was unable to cope with the fact that the Senior Partners gave Angel everything that Lindsey had worked so hard for. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. Buffy Main Cast. Upon discovering this, Lindsey sent several top private investigators to find out who the intruder was. Green supposedly wanted a better storyline to showcase his talents (hey, yeah, hey being pretty much interchangable with Tara's lines). Riley was also the only character to have been accepted as part of the group by Buffy's male friend, Xander Harris (Nicholas Brendon). Crouse was born in New York City, the daughter of Anna (ne Erskine) and Russel Crouse, a playwright. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Lindsay> > Crouse was signed for the whole season.> >> > Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant they> > had to scramble. It's very dramatic poetry in that way. So leaving actually saved his life. Professor Maggie Walsh is a fictional character in the television series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. --from a usenet discussion. In the search, it was discovered that Lee had consulted with an enemy law firm, and was then executed right next to Lindsey, his blood spraying on his face. [20] Crouse has spoken on the relevance of Buddhism in the modern world: .mw-parser-output .templatequote{overflow:hidden;margin:1em 0;padding:0 40px}.mw-parser-output .templatequote .templatequotecite{line-height:1.5em;text-align:left;padding-left:1.6em;margin-top:0}, "[Buddhism] is not an exclusive club. When she seemingly killed a security guard which put her on the run, Lindsay tried to contact Angel but he was already there and hung Lindsey's neck by a string choking, wanting to know where she was but Lindsey explained that she would die if Angel didn't save her. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> > Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> first episode. When he did, Lindsay discovered the man slaughter was a hoax to get Darla to Angel and hopefully take his soul. Riley later. [12] Deposited, incorporeal, in Wolfram & Hart and unable to leave the city limits, Spike gradually grows attached to L.A. and reconsiders his initial intention to seek out Buffy in Europe, deciding to allow Buffy to remember him as a self-sacrificing hero. Returning to his apartment, Lindsey found that Darla had left town, taking all her clothes with her. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? > > > then we went, ehhh, forget it. "It's always hard to be directed by someone who's close to you," Crouse says. [19], You're not part of the solution, Lindsey. It wasn't a big deal to lose Lindsay Crouse a whole 9episodes earlier than planned. Her maternal grandparents were Pauline (Ives) and author and educator John Erskine. In an interview from back in 2018, he said: "It was one of my very first jobs, it was certainly my first big job. ""Are you kidding? In 1996, she received a Daytime Emmy Award nomination for "Between Mother and Daughter", an episode of CBS Schoolbreak Special. I remember one early episode where Walsh was shown watching Buffy and Riley in bed together, and thought at the time that, if she were somehow sexually obsessed with Riley, she might have used Initiative resources, including other chipped demons and vampires, to take Buffy out of the picture, probably beginning when she sent Buffy out alone with the defective weapon against the demon. I would say "scheduling conflicts" is the Hollywood answer. Big Bang Theory plot hole: Who is Eliza Dushku? the exact opposite of this paragraph. Dressed in his casual attire, Lindsey left Los Angeles and went on a soul-searching trip, including, amongst other places, Nepal. "[4], Crouse outlined her view of Maggie's relationships with Riley and Buffy, "Her teaching assistant Riley is really the child she never had, and there's probably confusion there that he's a potential something for her that's slightly out of her reach, but she's willing to prevent anyone else from being interested in him. Riley was different from Buffy's other love interests, is he was the only one who could offer her a slice of normality. Adam wasn't scary enough to be Big Bad on his own either, LOL. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. But because of Lindsay Crouse having filming conflictions with her movie schedules they had to kill her off and write Adam in? Apr 21, 2022. ----- Posted via NewsOne.Net: Free (anonymous) Usenet News via the Web ----- http://newsone.net/ -- Free reading and anonymous posting to 60,000+ groups NewsOne.Net prohibits users from posting spam. What did Maggie intend for Adam to do then? Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). He sent Spike to kill her, claiming she was still possessed by Jasmine; he later admited he did not expect the plan to succeed, but it "was worth a shot." ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. Finding out that Buffy is the Slayer is a kind of a gas, and it's nervous-making and exciting to have good people on her team; she's like a president - she wants a great cabinet underneath her. They were thinking in terms of family,so Adam as "brother" probably seemed a better option. The only Buffy depatures that really phased me were Robia LaMorte, SethGreen, and Kristine Sutherland. Buffy Phenomenon A New Man (4.12) all too well - persaphones - The Sound of Music - Rodgers . That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. But there's always the possibility that it just represents a "party line" and more truth is found elsewhere. I don't want to sound like a jerk or attack ME and Joss or anything but is it standard practice to let actors with contracts just walk anytime they feel like it? In 1977, she appeared as Lily Braden, the discontented wife of hockey player Ned Braden in Slap Shot. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be amotherly type to Riley. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. While> Oz would have remained Willows love interest, I don't think we would> have seen Buffy crying in Oz's lap in "Dead Things" for instance. Apparently Adam was> > originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted out> > of her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. Express. Beating him down with his bare hands while apologizing for the fact Darla didn't love him and that he made the right choices, Angel used the sledgehammer to smash Lindsey's prosthetic hand, noting that Lindsey should be grateful he recently had an epiphany, as Angel could have easily destroyed Lindsey's remaining real hand instead. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? As it was, it came off entirely as a"question authority" piece. Buffy The Vampire Slayer is a classic supernatural series which has returned to All 4. It's nice, it's been fun that the people who have grown up with buffy have introduced it to their kids. I'm talking dirt poor, no shoes, no toilet, six of us kids in a room and come flu season that went down to four. . Better safe than splattered. "Quitting is not the same as giving up": Lindsay Crouse and Kirby Ferguson make the case for leaving a job, relationship or hobby. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. >> If Seth Green handn't left, it would have been him lying dead on the, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, jlp@aol.comnospam wrote in, Previously on alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer, "Boozy Smurf \(aka Andrew Hatch/790, > > in season four, Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a, >> We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what, Did anyone else notice that Cain was the same guy as Sahrjon on Angel. I really do believe that." Why did Buffy go to LA in season 4? I still don'tthink he was; he was a fellow victim and should never have been playedas a big bad. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. She did my head in so im glad that she didnt keep going. ", "The Summer Retreat with Ven. I really enjoy the strong, challenging women that pop up in Buffy's world - Maggie Walsh, Jenny Calendar, Anya, & Tara to name a few. Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their cause, that he will be stripped of his position at Wolfram & Hart, leaving a power vacuum which Lindsey could fill, gaining a measure of revenge on Angel. Charisma Carpenter is a 50-year-old American actress who played the role of Cordelia Chase in Buffy The Vampire Slayer for the first three seasons, and the series is now on All4.The star is also . 2000. The Watcher's Guide is indeed one of the published interviews I was citing about Crouse's departure and Walsh's fate. This then forced Lindsey to use an artificial hand from then on. This allowed her to commit murder and get away due to her supposed disability. Kane has described the character as being driven by cynicism and ambition: "I still think this cat looks at the glass as being half empty. I mean, it's the year 2000 people, we almost thought the world was going to end because computers couldn't cope with the millennium bug and the Big Bad is a mutant hybrid demon with a built-in dial-up modem. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. Before Angel left, Lindsey had the encounter digitally recorded and alerted the police. Lindsay Crouse is Indian by birth. Consequently, his work at the firm suffered as he aired his hatred towards Angel against his colleagues while still in a race with Lilah for the promotion. And ya know what, if Michelle Trachtenbergleft in the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. She was just in the way of his goal and so she had to be eliminated- and I think that cold, emotionless demon is always more unnerving than any other. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. WB / Hulu. His character was undergoing military training, but the creators of the series wanted to bring even more depth to Riley Finn. You never will be.Lorne to Lindsey, Unlike most of Wolfram & Hart's other employees, Lindsey was not entirely devoid of a moral conscience. "It was obviously a great thing to be a part of. [15] Although the "mind numbing" visions that Lindsey reported were non-existent, the events described were real. If he was making silver> bullets, it might be on a "Pascal's Wager" basis: if the legend IS true,> then using lead bullets is a way for him to get very quickly and very> messily dead. Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can onlybe killed by a silver bullet. Yes> I was that sad :-) and in those there were certain facts that don't appear> in Buffy>. (Presumably Watchers and other supernatural experts knew more). Buffy the Vampire Slayer RETURN confirmed - stars reunite after decade, Buffy the Vampire Slayer reboot: Release date, cast, plot, trailer, Sarah Michelle Gellar reveals the treatment she used to shed fat. Willow was heavy into magic since season two. http://gsoft.smu.edu/ScriptCrypt/crypt.html|same, kgoodnig-4DDDD9@newssvr11-ext.news.prodigy.com, 4E34B160CCD511AC.5999A36C@lp.airnews.net. The series stars Sarah Michelle Gellar as the title character, and she ended up forming a relationship with . Sarah Michelle Gellar. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. In it, she recalls the moment her friends saw a photo of Lady Gaga cuddling with Polansky in Miami after attending the Super Bowl . The plan was averted as Spike, Cordelia, and Angel were able to uncover Lindsey's actions. Since Buffy is meant to be the central character surely thedrama should focus on a her rather than Riley. After Riley learns that Buffy is the Slayer, they inform Walsh of her role. When informed by Eve that Spike had failed, Lindsey activated the Senior Partners' program meant to kill Angel if he turned against them. Before the Initiative showed up I had assumed that Maggie had discovered the existance of vampires and was using them as guinea pigs for various psych experiments. She also had a leading role in the 1987 film House of Games, which was directed by her then-husband David Mamet. Usually, Xander would become jealous of Buffy's other male connections, but he seemed to show respect towards Riley. In 1999, he worked with vampiric businessman Russell Winters, a client that because of Lindsey's and his firm's services, could feed on young women without alerting attention. > >> > I wonder. [16], Lindsey was incarcerated in a Holding Dimension that emulated suburbia, complete with a wife and a son. [5], Buffy writer David Fury said in an interview, "I don't think Joss had envisioned Maggie Walsh as being entirely villainous. Two men enter, one man leaves!" We bring you all the headlines and gossip in one place! Adam activates the chip Walsh had inserted into Riley's heart, making him biddable to Adam's command. Buffy The Vampire Slayer airs on ALL4 and Prime Video. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". It makes no sense to me. As Crouse has said: "In our family, the work ethic was held up as some kind of byword At any hour, somebody's typewriter was going."[5]. "Look at my generation. That was what irked me at first about Tara. And there> > > would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his> > own show. His character went on to feature in a comic book which focused on Riley and his new wife. Actual legends appear to be enormously miscellaneous and seldom include these familiar pieces, while they often *do* include pieces that we (and Hollywood) would say just belong to ghosts, werewolves, zombies, and the like. Yes, such specifics will certainly be written around the characters and their natures and would differ, but there's no real reason the broad flow of the story would have had to be different. ", Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress, Eleanor and Franklin: The White House Years, Beyond the Prairie: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, Beyond the Prairie, Part 2: The True Story of Laura Ingalls Wilder, "Anna E. Crouse, 97, Dies; Championed Discount Tickets for Broadway", "The Very (Very) Slow Rise of Lesbianism on TV - The New York Times", "Gloucester Stage Company plans five plays, Sunday readings for 29th season. An understanding that Willow found inconvenient as she used magic to empower her and increase her standing with Buffy. Nevertheless, a new contract required her to kill the Holy Triumvirate, formed by three innocent children. An interesting thing about Joss is he's not very diplomatic, I like that about him. Cordy (Charisma Carpenter) was introduced in the first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.She was a teen drama archetype: the hot, rich, mean girl with a slew of sycophantic followers . From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. Darla, however, secretly used his feelings to gain information from Wolfram & Hart to obtain a mystical ring from the Senior Partners during the Review. When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. -- Let the Darwin fishes swim!------------------------------------http://www.darwin-fish.com/fish.html------------------------------------, > In article <3D075A59@rcn.com>, Carmikl > wrote:> > > > > Also, apparently at a convention where Jane Espenson was a panelist. (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still has>>> scratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, so>>> he can't heal too fast. Riley later found out his boss had implanted a behaviour modifier into him after he joined the initiative, and it caused him to experience strange feelings. "[3], Crouse gave some insight into her view on her character, "She's such an extremist. Adam was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Buffyverse Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. Riley managed to remove the chip in his body and ripped out the tubes pumping blood to keep Walsh reanimated, killing her for good. READ MORE:Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? When Buffy appeared at the secret laboratory to confront Adam and save Riley, the undead Walsh tried to attack her with a bone saw. Their last collaboration was Mr. President in 1962. DonnaMy opinions might have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- Jukka.@hut.fi (Jukka Korpela), The answer to all questions starting with those four words is "Yes.". Crouse was on her way to audition for Bob Rafelson's 1981 remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice, and jokingly Mamet told Crouse to tell Rafelson that "he was a fool if he didn't hire me to write the screenplay." And Angel did that. There were other indications that an> unknown force was at work in and around U.C. After huge amounts of fan speculation on the idea, a vampirised Slayer finally did appear in the "Season Nine" comics. However, Angel knew that Lindsey could never be trusted, and he had secretly instructed Lorne to assassinate Lindsey once the Sahrvin demons were eliminated. > > > > This is the first time I've ever heard this. Sunnydale in further episodes before it was all revealed to us.-- Be seeing you,Growltiger, > > > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. ", Christian Kane has said that he considered Lindsey to be driven in his hate for Angel during season 5 over losing Darla to him: "Even though I'm in love with Eve, Darla was a true love. After figuring out that his hand wasn't evil but rather suicidal, Lindsey pulled the plug on his friend and destroyed the facility, while saving those that could still be saved. You don't AngelLindsey's last words, Lindsey and Angel allied once more in an effort to stop the Circle. [8] Darla did this with the intent to keep both lawyers as their liaison to the Senior Partners, because though angry for being used by Wolfram & Hart, she desired power. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. The three hired then-renegade Slayer Faith to assassinate him, promising to free her from her police charges and a doubled amount of payment. Personally I think> > ASH's departure this season was even more devastating.> >>> I wonder. Realising he could never truly be with her, he rejoined the military and took off on a helicopter, leaving Buffy standing helplessly below. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Buffy has actually played on this a bit in "Buffy v Dracula" when Spike blames Dracula for spilling the beans about vampire weaknesses-- implying that before Dracula's story was written, most myth and legend knew little or nothing about them. Sunnydale in further> > episodes before it was all revealed to us.> > --. Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. Emmy Award-winning Sarah Michelle Gellar was born on April 14, 1977 in New York City, the daughter of Rosellen (Greenfield), who taught at a nursery school, and Arthur Gellar, who worked in the garment industry. >. Now a Giles/Maggie struggleover Buffy's soul could have been fascinating but a Buffy/Maggie struggleover Riley? This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Apparently Adam was> > originally supposed to be a good guy, but when Lindsay Crouse wanted out> > of her contract they had to scramble to find a new Big Bad. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. She> > said the Initiative storyline was something that they pulled out of> > their hats at the last minute. Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? Ms. Crouse is a senior . However Buffy seemed to prefer living in danger, and she could not get used to the idea of settling down with Riley while attempting to save the world. Marc Blucas: The actor played Riley Finn in Buffy, Marc Blucas: The actor played Buffy's boyfriend. you never know, they could have bonded over him seeing her nude. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. The loss of Marc Blucas was a blessing! Putting him in a crisis of conscience, Lindsay teamed up with Angel to save the children and allow him to leave Wolfram & Hart scot-free. Maybe it useda wierd calibre bullet. Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy.Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their . She's not a mean person, she's just a straight-out scientist. [2], In a final confrontation between Angel and Lindsey, the two buried the hatchet, and Lindsey warned him of the games Wolfram & Hart was trying to play. JavaScript is disabled. Prior to having his powers stripped from him by Angel's team, he displayed the following powers. *shudder*. Eliza Dushku, who played the rogue slayer Faith Lehane, was not represented at all. --Doctor Who ************************************************************************, I wonder. Sumati Marut, Cindy Lee, Rick Blue, Lindsay Crouse", "Actress brings Buddhist retreat to Windhover. Perceiving that Buffy poses a risk to the project, Walsh tries to kill Buffy by sending her on a mission on which she is ambushed by two demons released from the Initiative's holding cells. His rifle didn't look like it had been bought in K-Mart. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> > first episode. Both Seth Green and Lindsay Crouse bailing in the same season meant theyhad to scramble. Per the outlet, "Angel . [citationneeded], Failing to do so, Darla was diagnosed with syphilis, the disease that she had before becoming a vampire. I've been expecting Tara to leave or>be off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLY>goneright? This is the first time I've ever heard this. The most complicated situation for her is having Riley fall in love with Buffy. "To join the Clueless Club, send a followup to this message quoting everythingup to and including this sig!" Crouse viewed her character "no nonsense, and she seems to be a real teacher. [17], Lindsey later revealed the existence of the Circle of the Black Thorn, the Senior Partners' instrument on this plane, a secret society devoted to maintaining man's inhumanity in exchange for power. Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. "It was an amazing first job as they were such a nice group of people, they were extremely patient with me. [1], After saving the three children, Lindsey returned to Holland, returning the disks and admitting to what he did. 1 Second Lead, Breaks for Starlight", "Actress brings third annual Buddhist retreat to Rockport. Buffy star missed. and Radcliffe College in 1970,[5] Crouse began her performing career as a modern and jazz dancer, but she soon switched to acting and made her Broadway debut in Much Ado About Nothing in 1972. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Lindsey was eager to have Angel sire Darla, thus saving her. (The> writers could change their minds, of course, and make them crucial to> the season seven finale, say, but that's the current canon.) I'm a vampire with a soul.BUFFY: A vampire with a soul? The break was eventually detected and Lindsey, along with Lilah, Lee, and several other employees where searched by mind readers.